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Could be interesting for the next figures. HD-DVDs was selling for $99 (£50!) recently, but Blu-Ray released Ratoullite & had far the stronger movie release s for the week.

Blu-ray numbers will be higher on the next set of numbers as they are running a buy one get one free deal on select Sony and Disney titles. This is to counter the sales of the HD-DVD exclusive Shrek 3. They also did this when Transformers was released and, while they took the weeks sales 51% to 49%, the actual sales for Blu-ray, when you take away the ones they gave away, would have been way lower than HD-DVD, and the studios would have lost a good deal of money, and all so that Blu-ray could say they won the week.

As you say, HD-DVD sold players for $99 recently which ended up with them selling over 90,000 players in one weekend, which was almost as many as Sonys top-selling stand-alone has sold in 6 months. We may not see much impact from this player sale though until the new year as a lot of players will have been bought as christmas presents.

TheMallrat HD DVD are doing 5 free movies with every purchase of a drive as well as back order of any player bought after October something
And recently A Sony chap has addimited Some Sony Execs are becoming increasingly worried that blu ray will go betamax or a stalemate and not as confident at winning due to the ever decreasing rate of ps3 sales and lack of sales of the blu ray players

Still Spiderman and Pirates of the Carabien 3 could boost sales overall for the dics a bit but still the price is far to high and with the recent slight decrease of actual HD DVD new movies by a couple of quid HD DVD is even more affordable.

Still amazes me though that with regard to how much more capacity the Blu Ray has no one is really using it

Quote from: neXusTheMallrat HD DVD are doing 5 free movies with every purchase of a drive as well as back order of any player bought after October something

They have been doing this since last year in the US and the Blu-ray group have been doing the same thing since earlier this year, which is why I didnt mention it as its kinda even when it comes to free movies with players.

Also, the higher capacity is being used by some studios but rather than using it to add more features, they are either just sticking uncompressed audio on it or have used it to put a second version of the film on the disc with the picture-in-picture commentaries on as doing it like HD-DVD does requires the new profile 1.1 players, none of which are out yet.

these sale lists has nothing to do with PS3 games btw.

HD-DVD players are getting bundled with that choice several titles like weve finally had over here. The results should be interesting as its $99 players for HD-DVD v Ratoullite for Blu-Ray

The new numbers are out and despite high-profile Blu-ray releases Cars and Ratatouille, they lost ground to HD-DVD since last week. I forgot that the numbers were a week behind so well see the impact of the Blu-ray BOGO offer with the next set of numbers.

The latest industry news is that the DVD Forum have finally approved 51GB HD-DVD discs, which should hopefully be compatible with current players (gotta wait for the press release on this for concrete details).

Quote from: TheMallratThe new numbers are out and despite high-profile Blu-ray releases Cars and Ratatouille, they lost ground to HD-DVD since last week. I forgot that the numbers were a week behind so well see the impact of the Blu-ray BOGO offer with the next set of numbers.

The latest industry news is that the DVD Forum have finally approved 51GB HD-DVD discs, which should hopefully be compatible with current players (gotta wait for the press release on this for concrete details).

If working on current drives etc this would be a big blow to blu ray wouldnt it? If the price stays the same as well that will really hurt

I thought the gap may have closed a lot more than that.

HD-DVD closed the gap, because the figures also take into account of the $99 DVD players that was head to head to cars/ratatouille.

It will be interesting to see how the gap changes over the next few months. Especially with Xmas around the corner.

Most people still dont see the point of or need for hi-def players.

When the prices drops to a reasonable level then perhaps it might be worth buying.

Quote from: SeriousMost people still dont see the point of or need for hi-def players.

When the prices drops to a reasonable level then perhaps it might be worth buying.

You will find this xmas your statement to be a bit wrong

Ive said it before on here and no-one seemed to agree but I still dont see why there *has* to be a massively dominant format that will take over the market and put an end to the rival format. Just because it happened with betamax and VHS doesnt mean it has to happen this time.

even if blue ray does become the less popular format I reckon it could still stick around

Macs and PCs still both exist

+ there isnt a single dominant format for games consoles - some titles are released on xbox & Play station others are exclusive to one or the other - consumers have grown accustomed to this in the console market and there is no absolute reason why they couldnt also in the home cinema market.

The HD-DVD spec document that lets you build decoders and encoders is free.

The Blueray version is a £2500 a year license for one printed copy which you have to return.  You must also be a member of their development group to even be able to buy the specs.

Building decoders for both systems is about equal difficulty.



If it comes down to which format gets a cheap player out the door then itll be HD-DVD.  Frankly keeping the specs for something you want widely adopted is silly.  Sony do make some really odd choices.

Quote from: DaveIve said it before on here and no-one seemed to agree but I still dont see why there *has* to be a massively dominant format that will take over the market and put an end to the rival format. Just because it happened with betamax and VHS doesnt mean it has to happen this time.

even if blue ray does become the less popular format I reckon it could still stick around

Macs and PCs still both exist

+ there isnt a single dominant format for games consoles - some titles are released on xbox & Play station others are exclusive to one or the other - consumers have grown accustomed to this in the console market and there is no absolute reason why they couldnt also in the home cinema market.

It has to happen for the good of the planet.
Think of the dual format companies... doe we print 50k of each, ro 30k of one & 70k of the other etc.

There may be room for 2x formats, but history has shown its huff n puff & will end in tears

I think Dave is right. Sales of movies is so high now, you could have 15% of the market and easily survive. Like he says Apple still sell macs and they rely on people buying them purely because of the cool factor, since they are total garbage.

Id like to see HD-DVD win as it is the more open format. Capacity really isnt an issue given how well the HD-DVD format has been used so far.

Sony are the Apple of the AV world, Id rather line the pockets of other companies.