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  • Offline Beaker

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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #30 on: November 19, 2007, 02:54:59 AM
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Thats not a bad thing if youve got mates like mine. I do 20% min now to cover 2 days worth of building/testing and handling rmas or software issues.


i get other people to order the hardware, if its faulty THEY send it back.  Il build it, then use it for a couple of days.  They then get it dropped off at their house and set up.  if it breaks and its under warranty then ill take the offending hardware out, but ill not be held responsible for it.  They bought the hardware not me, its them that has to chase the company down for an RMA number.
I used to stump up all the cash, but after a couple of "Well i cant afford to pay you it all now" wankers I refuse to order up-front unless i have the cash up front.  Also at that point i add 10% on materials on top of my build price.

Edit : and with me there is no longer the option of "Can you just install my graphics card" or similar.  Thats £25 if they have the graphics card already.  Still £15 cheaper than any of the shops round here, and its gonna take me about an hour.  Last person who monaed about it got me to fit it, then said i could wistle for the money, so i dropped the card back out of the machine.  If you arent going to pay me, make sure ive already screwed the sides back on the case :)
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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #31 on: November 19, 2007, 10:34:29 AM
Alienware Aurora 7500
Athlon x2 6400
XP Pro (Would be cheaper with Vista Home Premium)
Dual 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8800 GT - SLI Enabled
2GB - 2 x 1024MB  
Alienware® 1000 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
250 GB Serial ATA 3 Gbit/s, 7,200 RPM with 16MB Cache
500 GB Serial ATA 3 Gbit/s, 7,200 RPM with 16MB Cache
20X Dual Layer DVD±RW/CD-RW Writer
Creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
Creative® 5.1 Inspire™ T6100
£1,646.18
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Area-51 7500

Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q6700 2.66GHz 8MB Cache 1066MHz FSB
Genuine Windows® Vista Home Premium
Dual 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8800 GT - SLI Enabled
2GB - 2 x 1024MB
700 Watt Alienware® Approved Multi-GPU Power Supply
250 GB Serial ATA 3 Gbit/s, 7,200 RPM with 16MB Cache
500 GB Serial ATA 3 Gbit/s, 7,200 RPM with 16MB Cache
20X Dual Layer DVD±RW/CD-RW Writer
High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio - Standard
Creative® 5.1 Inspire™ T6100
£1,637.95
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Product Information
Power Mean Machine Tower System (Intel® Core™2 Quad Q6600 Quadruple Core 4x2.4GHz 8MB, USB 2.0 Internal Card Reader (3.5"Black), BFG nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX OC (600MHz) 768MB DDR3, BFG nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX OC (600MHz) 768MB DDR3, Samsung 250GB Serial ATA II 8MB cache, Samsung 500GB Serial ATA II 16MB cache, Kingston 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 667 PC2-5300 240-pin, Sound Blaster X-Fi Extreme Gamer, Logitech S-500 5.1 Surround set, ASUS MyCinema-P7131 Hybrid (Digital and Analog) TV PCI Card)  £1529.70

    * CoolerMaster Elite 330 Black and Silver Midi Tower Case
          o front panel with 2x USB ports, earphone and mic ports
          o 600W Watt Power Supply
          o 120mm rear fan
          o Dimensions 480x 202x 435 mm
    * ASUS P5N-E SLI Socket 775 Motherboard
          o Chipset: NVIDIA nForce® 650i SLI
          o 4x DIMM sockets support up to 8GB DDR2 800/667/533, Dual Channel Architecture
          o Front Side Bus 1333/1066/800/533MHz (1333 available when CPUs running at 1333 are ready)
          o Integrated 6-ch Audio
          o Gb LAN (10/100/1000)
          o 6x USB 2.0 ports and 1x Firewire
          o 2x IDE ATA-133 connectors
          o 4x SATA2 (3Gb/s) connectors (Support RAID 0, 1, 0+1, 5, and JBOD)
          o 2x PCI Express slots for Graphics cards (Single VGA mode: x16 or SLI mode: x8, x8)
          o 2x PCI Express x1, 2x PCI slots
          o 1 x Parallel; 2x PS/2 ports for Mouse and Keyboard; 1x External SATA
    * Intel® Core™2 Duo E6550 Dual Core 2x2.33GHz 4MB cache
    * Kingston 2GB (2x 1GB) DDR2 667 PC2-5300 240-pin
    * 250GB SATAII Hard Drive
    * NVidia GeForce 8600GT 256MB DDR3 Dual DVI
    * Samsung SH-S202 20x DVDRW MultiFormat LightScribe Black with Nero 6 and PowerDVD
    * 2-year Parts and Labour warranty (Hardware only - Return To Base - free collect and return)


http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/product.php?lang=&submenu=&menu=&product_id=22851&session=af0aa2b3352bb821f95f35c02623c653

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Product description     Bigpockets Ultimate Quad Core PC System
CPU / Processor    INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 1066FSB
Hard Drive Size    Western Digital SERIAL 74GB UDMA 150 10000RPM 16MB - Boot drive
WD HD SERIAL 750GB UDMA 300 7200RPM 16MB OEM - Data storage
RAM / Memory Size    ADATA 2GB DDR2 1000 CL5.0 DUAL CHANNEL EXTREME EDITION
Optical Drive(s)    2 x NEC DVD±RW/DL 18x6x18x8 S-ATA AD-7173S OEM SIL LABELFLASH
Video(s)    X/VISION 768MB GeF 8800ULTRA PCI-E SLI RET
Pinnacle Dual DVB-T Video Card
Motherboard    ASUS SKT-775 P5B PREMIUM VISTA EDITION
Network    2 x 10/100/1000
Dual Gigabit LAN controllers, both featuring AI NET2
Marvell PCI-E and PCI Gigabit LAN controllers
Expansion Slots    2 x PCI Express x16 (Blue x16 / Black x2 or x4)
1 x PCI Express x1
3 x 32-bit PCI 2.2
Storage Controller(s)    6 x S-ATA/300
RAID 0
RAID 1
RAID 5
RAID 10
JMicron JMB363:
1 x P-ATA/133
1 x S-ATA/300
1 x S-ATA/300 (External)
RAID 0
RAID 1
JBOD
Back Panel I/O Connectors    1 x PS/2 Keyboard
1 x PS/2 Mouse
1 x COM
1 x Coaxial S/PDIF Output
1 x External SATA
1 x IEEE1394
6 x Audio
4 x USB2.0
2 x LAN
Internal I/O Connectors    1 x 24-pin ATX Power
1 x 8 pin ATX 12V Power
2 x USB2.0
1 x Audio
1 x CD Audio
1 x IEEE1394
1 x TPM connector
5 x FAN
Audio / Sound    CREATIVE SB X-Fi XTREME MUSIC 7.1
Additional information    AI Lifestyle Series
ScreenDUO
AI Remote
AP Trigger
ASAP (ASUS Accelerated Propeller)
TPM SUPPORT
Condition    Brand New
Warranty    3 Years RTB
Operating System    None
Notes    This PC only uses the best parts available. Its main highlights are the most powerful graphics card available, 1000Mhz RAM, Asus premium vista edition motherboard, 10k RPM hard drive for instant access and not to forget a 4 core cpu!
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  • Offline Eagle

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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #32 on: November 19, 2007, 21:58:10 PM
^ Ugly as sin - but that bigpockets job is lookin good...  :shock: PayPal too!  8-)  8-)  8-)

Are they a reliable company?  Ive never heard of them.

Is this system upgradable to any extent?

Whats a vista edition mobo?

Also: Im confused about 64bit processor and 64bit OS...  :?

:)
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  • Offline Cypher

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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #33 on: November 19, 2007, 22:21:44 PM
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Whats a vista edition mobo?


Your guess is as good as mine.

Ive seen "Vista Compatible" branded monitors before.
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  • Offline Eagle

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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #34 on: November 19, 2007, 23:15:41 PM
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With that you will need a 64 bit OS to use the memory.


Quote from: Microsoft
Currently, 32-bit editions of Windows are capable of supporting up to 4 gigabytes (GB) of system memory


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/overview.mspx

Confused. :shock:   :D

Should I stop reading stuff and just get the biggest, badass system I can buy?
 
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  • Offline neXus

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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #35 on: November 19, 2007, 23:31:48 PM
Eagle, just think of it this way

Photoshop being 32bit will not see any perfomance boost from being under xp64bit BUT xp64 bit pro runs a lot smoother in the background giving an overall better pefromance
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  • Offline Eagle

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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #36 on: November 19, 2007, 23:42:22 PM
:) Cheers.

How about this loadout from www.powerpc.com

Power Mean Machine Tower System

Intel® Core™2 Quad Q6600 Quadruple Core 4x2.4GHz 8MB

ASUS P5N-E SLI Socket 775 Motherboard (I take it 775 is the way forward?)
Chipset: NVIDIA nForce® 650i SLI

USB 2.0 Internal Card Reader

nVidia GeForce 8800GTS 320MB DDR3 Dual DVI SLI
nVidia GeForce 8800GTS 320MB DDR3 Dual DVI SLI

Samsung 250GB Serial ATA II 8MB cache
Samsung 500GB Serial ATA II 16MB cache

Corsair 4GB 2xTwin Kits (4x1GB) DDR2 800MHz XMS2 DHX

Sound Blaster Audigy Value 7.1 sound card
Logitech S-500 5.1 Surround set

Seems a bargin at £1139.75?......  :shock:

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At the end of the day, I have little time these days (thanks, Eggonline!) to be fannying around with regular upgrades so this ones gotta last a few years. :)
 
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  • Offline Kunal

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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #37 on: November 19, 2007, 23:47:10 PM
I dont see the point in going for 2x 8800GTSs when the 8800GT is cheaper, gives you more memory and performs better.
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  • Offline Eagle

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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #38 on: November 19, 2007, 23:49:59 PM
^ Wasnt offered in that setup. :( How about: nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX OC (600MHz) 768MB DDR3 for the same money, more or less...

Can you explain why its better than two cards? :)
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  • Offline neXus

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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #39 on: November 20, 2007, 01:45:32 AM
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^ Wasnt offered in that setup. :( How about: nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX OC (600MHz) 768MB DDR3 for the same money, more or less...

Can you explain why its better than two cards? :)


Cant you build your own?
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  • Offline Eagle

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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #40 on: November 20, 2007, 05:28:58 AM
I could - if I had the time.  How much cheaper do you think it would be if I did though?
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  • Offline Beaker

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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #41 on: November 20, 2007, 09:46:44 AM
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ASUS P5N-E SLI Socket 775 Motherboard (I take it 775 is the way forward?)


Yeah, within reason, but IIRC the next gen Intel platform isnt going to be compatible with the present range of motherboards.  I think its those that need the x38 series chipset that are different.  You would think Intel had learnt from AMDs lesson there, but they havent.
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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #42 on: November 20, 2007, 10:50:54 AM
Ive ordered from Bigpockets (my dads and brothers computers) are from there, Nicely put together tbh.  The PowerC ones are good too, but at last count they were using £14 cases.  May have changed on the higher models.

I used to build my own PCs for people, but Bigpockets and PowerC are using the same parts I use, and I cant touch them on price.

My dads £150 ex vat PC from big pockets has an Asus M2N-MX mainboard in it, sempron and 1GB ram, thats before we get to the DVD burner and 250gb HDD.

Personally, Id go with the bigpockets PC, and fill it with HDDs.
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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #43 on: November 20, 2007, 16:25:25 PM
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Quote from: Serious
With that you will need a 64 bit OS to use the memory.


Quote from: Microsoft
Currently, 32-bit editions of Windows are capable of supporting up to 4 gigabytes (GB) of system memory


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/overview.mspx

Confused. :shock:   :D

Should I stop reading stuff and just get the biggest, badass system I can buy?
 


Vista 32 says it supports 4gb of memory... and it does, in total.

Friend of mine has 2 graphics cards with 1gb mem on each, and 2 gb system ram.

He has another 2gb of ram in his computer right now, but his computer cant see it, shows in the bios... get into windows and its back down to the 2gb he started with. Investigated further and it appears windows can handle 4GB memory... exactly... including system ram, and video ram.
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  • Offline Pete

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Re:Upgrade Time!
Reply #44 on: November 20, 2007, 17:47:48 PM
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I could - if I had the time.  



lol how long have you spent browsing shops and comparing specs? :P
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