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Religeon (Lets argue)
on: September 17, 2007, 10:03:39 AM
As people can gather, Im a Atheist, any religious nut who tries to argue with  me gets this, Me and many others struggle with Ataxia, then theres millions of other diseases, god designed this and then handed them out, what sadistic sod would do that, god could not be so nasty, people get Ill, its tough luck.

And Muslims go around blowing people up, hows that religious..

People easily kill in his name.

like the Tsunami, If it missed major islands, wed not have known would we.
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Re:Religeon (Lets argue)
Reply #1 on: September 17, 2007, 10:15:51 AM
Ghandi once said...

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
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Religeon (Lets argue)
Reply #2 on: September 17, 2007, 10:43:53 AM
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As people can gather, Im a Atheist, any religious nut who tries to argue with  me gets this, Me and many others struggle with Ataxia, then theres millions of other diseases, god designed this and then handed them out, what sadistic sod would do that, god could not be so nasty, people get Ill, its tough luck.

And Muslims go around blowing people up, hows that religious..

People easily kill in his name.

like the Tsunami, If it missed major islands, wed not have known would we.


truth be had you would understand evolution, and over the years dna gets currupted and conditions occur leading to the death of that particular variant of animal. technically you arent meant to breed.

if you are religious/ want some higher being to blame for your condition, then if he does actually exist, i would want to keep in his good books for punishment could be worse.
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Reply #3 on: September 17, 2007, 10:54:32 AM
"Muslims go around blowing people up, hows that religious.. "


All of them?

Thats news to me!

Thats like saying all scottish people kill their daughters and then create a media frenzy.

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Religeon (Lets argue)
Reply #4 on: September 17, 2007, 11:00:13 AM
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As people can gather, Im a Atheist, any religious nut who tries to argue with  me gets this, Me and many others struggle with Ataxia, then theres millions of other diseases, god designed this and then handed them out, what sadistic sod would do that, god could not be so nasty, people get Ill, its tough luck.

And Muslims go around blowing people up, hows that religious..

People easily kill in his name.

like the Tsunami, If it missed major islands, wed not have known would we.


truth be had you would understand evolution, and over the years dna gets currupted and conditions occur leading to the death of that particular variant of animal. technically you arent meant to breed.

if you are religious/ want some higher being to blame for your condition, then if he does actually exist, i would want to keep in his good books for punishment could be worse.


I forgot this classic one, a rapist in a open prison, popped out and bought a winning lottery ticket, he won 7m, great justice for the woman he raped.

I fall everyday, I posted on here how sore it was, before I get up, I swear at the suposed heaven, then finish, saying happy now.
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Religeon (Lets argue)
Reply #5 on: September 17, 2007, 12:31:42 PM
when at the bottom of depression, you will always blame someone else for your illness/luck. it isnt your fault, however it isnt anyone elses, its a fact.

just dont let those feelings start to become introverted, as its a common path to suicide, being completely obsessed with your failings and not letting anyone else help.


as your English you should just think about the best things and keep them in mind. think of it as a test.
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Religeon (Lets argue)
Reply #6 on: September 17, 2007, 12:35:25 PM
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I forgot this classic one, a rapist in a open prison, popped out and bought a winning lottery ticket, he won 7m, great justice for the woman he raped.

I fall everyday, I posted on here how sore it was, before I get up, I swear at the suposed heaven, then finish, saying happy now.


LoL this reminds me of Forrest Gump, the officer he saved and who sailed with him on the shrip ship, cursing god at the top of the mast.
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Reply #7 on: September 17, 2007, 12:38:04 PM
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when at the bottom of depression, you will always blame someone else for your illness/luck. it isnt your fault, however it isnt anyone elses, its a fact.

just dont let those feelings start to become introverted, as its a common path to suicide, being completely obsessed with your failings and not letting anyone else help.


as your English you should just think about the best things and keep them in mind. think of it as a test.

I do I think of what I used to do .
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Reply #8 on: September 17, 2007, 12:44:27 PM
God tests us for a reason. The rapist may get to spend the next 40 years enjoying his money, and you may be in pain for the next 40 years, but the roles will be reversed and the time frame extended to eternity after you both die. Thats why.

I dont believe it personally, but thats what I was tought.  :)
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Reply #9 on: September 17, 2007, 12:50:46 PM
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God tests us for a reason. The rapist may get to spend the next 40 years enjoying his money, and you may be in pain for the next 40 years, but the roles will be reversed and the time frame extended to eternity after you both die. Thats why.

I dont believe it personally, but thats what I was tought.  :)

I think the rapist should give all his money to his victims, Im resigned to my fate, but its not fare on my kids, they have to do things, that are beyond normal.
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Religeon (Lets argue)
Reply #10 on: September 17, 2007, 13:03:39 PM
Your kids might get an experince for the better though, they will certainly grow up with a better understanding of persons
in the same situation as yours.
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Reply #11 on: September 17, 2007, 13:33:59 PM
Religeon (lets learn to spell)
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Reply #12 on: September 17, 2007, 13:36:57 PM
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Your kids might get an experince for the better though, they will certainly grow up with a better understanding of persons
in the same situation as yours.


Kids.

Thats the scary part, my sister has it, she had no kids to kill the disease in our family, my kids fight like hell, imagine if only one kid had it.
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Reply #13 on: September 17, 2007, 14:58:37 PM
Unfortunately God created genetics knowing what it would do. He could have made our genetics perfect, so that, like at least some microbes, we would not be susceptible  to diseases like cancer. The problem with this is he would really have had to make each of us, rather than roll the dice and see if what god knew came true, we would never have evolved.

The question now is do we still need to evolve as a species or can we do the job better ourselves? This is a weak argument, we could have been given a task to remove genetic diseases from our population, instead of which we allow them to continue. This does not mean killing people, just making sure they do not reproduce the disease by having children who carry the gene(s). If we know about a disease and still have children then we take the risk of giving it to them.

There is a second weak argument in that without people suffering horrible diseases we would never know how well off everyone else is. Knowing people are worse off than me certainly makes me feel better about my arthritis torturing me.

The issue of disasters is that they are random, they are not directly controlled by god (or multiples if such exist). People who die are either evil, in which case they end up in hell, or good ones who go to heaven. In either case they still survive in a manner.

As to the person winning the lottery, its a random event, the authorities should have taxed the money at 100% and given some to the woman, then given the rapist another year year in a secure prison for escaping. God isnt the issue here, its weak humans being kind to offenders when we should be tough.

God has a billion and one get out clauses waiting to be released and at the end of the trial just try getting god to foot the bill in court...
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Reply #14 on: September 17, 2007, 15:22:26 PM
One religious argument is god cannot intervene in free will so cannot stop it directly.

One ultra religious views includes things like god sic is punishing us as a society or as individuals.

Personally I just believe it happens and has no relation to any superhuman entity.  I found someone who has similar views to me on religion but is decidedly more eloquent in his presentation.  Pat Condell is worth a watch if youve not seen him before:
http://uk.youtube.com/patcondell
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